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Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2010.04.26 15:27:00 - [1] Edited by: Le Skunk on 26/04/2010 15:36:12 Its a common problem and one that is certainly getting worse. And one without a ready counter for small to medium pvp corps and one which forces bigger and bigger blobs on the gates (which in turn leads carebears to scratch their head in amazement and yell "WHY YOU NEED 10 SHEP TO GANK ME!! BOOST SENTRY GUNS TO STOP THE BLOBS") The worst ive ever seen was SEVEN mother ships dropped onto a 3 man camp (from the old band of brothers alliance). Why do they do it? Because its fun when bored and they cant take out savy pirates any other way. They also use titan bridges to bridge in 40 head on your camp, but I do not object to this so much as it takes 40 pilots working together to defeat you instead of 2 bored MOM pilots with their scorpion alt. I think a 40 man gang with a good logistics chain should have a great chance of defeating a small gang. Also there is the possibility you can give them a good whipping if they aint on the ball tee hee. MASSIVE SPANKING of 40 man titan bridge on 6 man camp The best way to fix this would be to simply ban MOMS from lowsec. However this would attract massive emorage from the I SPENT 25 BILL ISK I EARNED FOR NO EFFORT WITH MY t2 BPO/ MOONGOLD ON THIS SHIP IT SHOULD BE GOOD. Basicaly your only defence is: Run like hell when the cyno goes up and leave a couple of ships to die - Bring in sniper ship at 155km and pop the wrecks / unclock neutral alt at 200km in t1 cruiser and warp in on wreck to grab your loot. Note down the cyno ships name and add the moms to adress book. or Run very large numbers of remote repping BS with massive armor soak tanks. Don't camp on a high sec gate either. When the cyno goes up, get deagressed immediately. All turn your remote rep on who is primaried and try to tank him out long enough to jump. Remote repping does not prevent gate jumps or docking (though it should be noted people are trying to change this over on the assembly hall). or Establish connections with local 0.0 power groups who would be only happy to provide some support for a MOM kill. However, the random nature of these hotdrops in practice makes this difficult to achieve. And anyway are we not supposed to be pirates thumbing our nose at the man? Not huddling together for warmth like some 3000 man 0.0 alliance of lemmings - Skulking like an agoraphobic with rickets from station dock to pos shield to jumpbridge to titan bridge to high sec in absolute terror of open space and the chance that someone might shoot at them SKUNK (o)
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2010.04.26 20:53:00 - [2] Originally by: Ranger 1 To quote Clint Eastwood: A man has to know his limitations. Get it right. "Man's got to know his limitations" Is the correct quote SKUNK (o)
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2010.04.26 23:48:00 - [3] Edited by: Le Skunk on 26/04/2010 23:51:18 Originally by: Viper **zIe DD originally worked in lowsec post-patch, it was removed because it was an "exploit" since the AOE DD didn't work before, not because it broke balance They knew perfectly well the new targeted DD worked in lowsec. I and many other pointed it out to them many times on the test server thread, and indeed pointed out what sort of dire consequences it would have for small-mid sized corps. The DD in lowsec was not balanced, and hence was removed. Originally by: Viper **zIe Only an idiot could complain about things being "overpowered" or "game breaking" or "not fair" when they have no idea how they work in the actual game environment. Perhaps, but if somebody calls a ship overpowered and you then go on to prove that the ship is actualy 5 times MORE POWERFULL then the person you are calling an idiots perception of the ship - whats your argument? SKUNK (o)
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2010.04.27 00:08:00 - [4] Edited by: Le Skunk on 27/04/2010 00:08:16 Originally by: Viper **zIe The HIC is a single counter to a supercap in lowsec, neuting/bumping is another (that's how you had to do it before HICs, remember) Yes, neuting and bumping was so effective it worked once in 9 months on a pilot who solo hotdropped the same system every day for 2 weeks at the same time. I am glad to hear the HIC is a counter to MOM drops. Next time im hotdropped by 7 mother ships, Ill get in my HIC (I can fly all 4 dont ya known) and everything will be alright \o/ SKUNK (o)
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2010.04.27 11:23:00 - [5] Originally by: Sellmewarez Posting in a thread which has now become people who *** about getting outblobbed in 0.0 defending their right to blob lowsec. LOL Its fairly natural for 0.0 pilots to blob. You dont join a 3000 man alliance for the excellent 1v1 and small gang pvp opportunity's. When you join a 3000 man alliance - You are sacrificing any impact you as an individual will have on the game into the hands of a select few leadership figures You are told what time to log on. Your performance is monitored with work targets. If you are caught shirking your responsibility you are puinished. You will stop playing a game you pay for citing "work" or "kid trouble" so you wont be hounded why your online and not on the CTA. If you talk at the wrong time on comms you are insulted. You turn up when told, you go to systems you are told, you warp where you are told, and you shoot people in the order you are told. Your a dirty little slave and you love it! In exchange you get to sit in 1000 man lag fests waiting for your modules to activate in the hope of being be pilot number 210 on a titan killmail (which you can load up every now and then whilst at work) and wonder where the officer loot went???**. Oh and you get to see your leadership flying around in MOMs, Titans, and 10 bill faction ships paid for by your hard work taking moons in the above mentioned lag fests. Im sure a lot of you would love to post to tell me how great it is and your not at all slaves but your alliance does not allow you to post on the forums :-) SKUNK (o)
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2010.04.28 21:37:00 - [6] Originally by: HarrietMiers No offense Liang, but you are truly grasping at straws at this point. What happens to these small alliances? They can man up, make some friends and blow the **** up. They can also move, build their own SC's, or do anything else they please. Man up or go back to empire. - Liang Unfortunatly as has been shown time and time again that logic does not apply through a series of nerfs. Nano nerf - MAN UP AND GET YOUR OWN NANO SHIPS - MAKE SOME FRIENDS AND USE RA... oh ccp nerfed them Doomsday Nerf - LOL MAN UP AND GET YOUR OWN TITANS - MAKE FRIENDS AND USE THE .. oh ccp nerfed them Privateer Nerf - LOL GET YOURSELF ORGANISED AND COME FIGHT US YOU KNOW WHERE ... oh ccp nerfed them Same goes with pretty much every nerf. You can yell "man up" all you want but ccp ignore you. SKUNK (o)
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2010.04.29 10:10:00 - [7] Originally by: Willywant Ortelling Isn't your argument that SCs are super safe in low sec etc etc nerf them. So when you link to CH killboard to us killing SCs in low sec with our own, it somehow illustrates your point? ::confused:: SUPERCAPITALS ARNT OVEPOWERD STUPID!!! JUST USE SUPERCAPITALS TO KILL THEM!!! (o)
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2010.04.29 10:54:00 - [8] Originally by: Dr Fighter yeah dropping moms left right and center is becoming tiresome in low sec, its near impossible to have a low number carrier supported battle whichout some ramdon allience with nothing to do with either of the sides fighting - and wipe out all the carriers and leave. opertunistic ganks, the problem is that somtimes a super carrier is needed to kill a station hugging carrier but you cant have that without the 5 man SC teams waiting for their cyno baiters to find somthing. we all know they are ment to be awsome at bashing caps and its nice to see them being used, but this dropping on everyone and anyone is total overkill. can we haz titan DD in low sec again plz, since we have fighter bombers i dont see why i titan shouldnt get to use its 0.0 defence/offence in the same way Great sentiments but as discussed above, it appears with the HP boost a lone titan DD wont cut it against a mom. It will however cut it against your carrier in low sec, when the bored/0.0 terrified titan drops in which will be insta popped So the problem is compounded. SKUNK (o)

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